Friars have left the building?

Yowin · Post by **Yowin** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:34 am

Hi,

I have been away from DAoC for a long, long time, but I played in CoA so joined this forum through alliance. (I think ToA was not out yet when I left.) I noticed on return that my Friar had lost all her Spec so I went to read again on what all the skill and spells did. About every froum I read friars said that the class was not worth playing.

Any how, I still want to try to play my Friar and was hoping that some people might be able to help me with a spec. I was thinking R25, E33, P11 and S50. I think I will be mostly Solo RvE as there are not many in CoA now but I would like to do RvR when I get 50 (I am 43 now). Or does anyone at least know a good resourse that covers the latest Friar changes I can read?

Thank you for your help.

Evzy · Post by **Evzy** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:20 am

If its only lvl 43 and you left prior to TOA then you have lots to catch up on - not only on your class - stuff like Artifacts - new weapons and armour etc with added bonus's from TOA e.g longer casting distance etc.. Then you have the expansions since then - Catacombs - this brought instant dungeons etc - ideal for levelling up these days! Following on from that Darkness Rising - new Champion levels (I wouldnt worry about these pre lvl 50 etc)

Cant give you much help regarding friars as have never played one - as far as I know some people still love them in RvR so I wouldnt worry too much if your heart is set on playing it!

There are class specific forums on VN Boards if you want to look there, or try Freddyshouse and search on there for advice as well - 2 most active DAOC forums I guess.

Yowin · Post by **Yowin** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:51 am

Thanks for the reply, I will read those resourses you list...

Yep, I know I have much to catch up on...I have all the EP now until Darkness Rises. I just needed to know what does what so I can re-spec hehe.

Thanks again for the help

Oh I meant to say that I did in fact find it quite incredulous that all Friars had left, but the more I read from posts by non-Friar players the more I was concerned. Glad to hear that there are still many enjoying the class.

Ghengis · Post by **Ghengis** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:10 pm

i play my friar a lot and love it.
the recent changes in friar abilities have made them far more RvR useful.
if you want a group in RvR spec 50 enhance and at least 15 rejuve.
my spec is 50E,18R,38S and a few left over points in parry.

Yowin · Post by **Yowin** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:16 pm

oow great. Thanks.

I remember being told that parry was quite important before, but your spec confirms what I have seen since comeing back that it is nolonger crutial. I haven't yet found a list/descriptions of the skills (at work) but I read that most specials now don't start with a parry?

Itching to get home now

Ghengis · Post by **Ghengis** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:13 pm

nothing at all fires off from a parry.
evade leads to some good stuff.

Shar · Post by **Shar** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:02 pm

Im no friar guru as I only just started taking him out in RvR even tho I been rocking the top weekly friar rp's

ands its got nothing to do with that noob theurg that leechs from me honest

Is there any point going 50e, as the last resist buff is 49e right?

If your only going to solo i'd drop rejuv and put more into enhance to get the best abs buff you can.

As far as styles go most friars at the moment seem to spam holy staff(34) with counter evade/friars friend(39) chain for back-up. As you tend to evade alot more then parry this works quite well. The 50 style excommunicate is only good one off parry, however I did read on the Drunken Friar forums that friar parry was broken

Also bear in mind that next patch the heal proc on Holy Staff gets nerf to a HoT. The heal procs can be really great in a 1v1 but are next to useless in fg rvr.

Personally I think friars perform best within groups, red resists/grapple/BG/static tempest and reasonable backup heals if spec'd correct.

Oh and all the friars didnt stop playing, theres more about now then ever before since the patch love.

Just a few of my opinions, get out there and swing that stick!

Syri · Post by **Syri** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:23 am

I've got a friar at lvl 50 on the usa classic server, can't advise on arties, but the spec i use is 47 enhance, 39 staff, 19 parry, 15 rejuv.
the enhance gives you the highest self dex/qui buff, so you will get a bit better evade. doesn't miss anything essential off
the staff gives you Holy staff, which is a great anytime, as it procs a heal on every hit
19 parry, cause it can still have some use
and 15 rej to get the better res

hope this is some help

Yowin · Post by **Yowin** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:51 am

Thanks for yoru great feedbak...Sorry I did not respond sooner but I was away for the weekend. This is all fantastic food for thought. I played a little and got next level (I was only abou thalf a bulb away) and got a free level...I love this feature! hehe So now I have more spec points to play with.

I did not realise how important the Master Levers are. Seems not possible to get groups to start those now

As Evzy said there is so much for me to catch up on

Basically I am hoping to get back more into DAoC as I always liked the RvR 'endgame'. WoW 'endgame' seems shallow to me.

Oh, can you tell me if the 'Kings Summons' quests are soloable. I tried (with my Necromancer) the Race to King's Crossing. However it seems very hard (even allowing for that fact I am quite useless:)).

I have Evade V and Thoughness, I assume these come as I leveled (it has been so long) as all my other Realm Point skills were reset too. Sorry fo so many questions.

Again thanks for your help.

Evzy · Post by **Evzy** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:10 pm

You should be able to solo the Champions level 1 quests, and mebbe lvl 2 as well (cant remember names but kings crossing is lvl 1 and easy - guess depends on ya necero lvl tho)

As for Master Levels - just keep an eye on freddys house forums - some pop up on there quite often so you should be able to get them done at some point (or be like me and dont worry about them!)

Yowin · Post by **Yowin** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:32 pm

Oh cool...I will probbably be like you and forget about them hehe. To be honest they don't apeal to me at all...I just got the impression that they were crutial for RvR. That is good news that I can 'brush them under the carpet'.

I did visit Snowdonia on the this morning quickly and eeek...I was so lost...(Needless to say I left before New Frontiers came in).

Byronis · Post by **Byronis** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:28 pm

1.87 and 1.8 x level spec points inc in a day or two on US servers

Syri · Post by **Syri** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:15 pm

Terris wrote:1.87 and 1.8 x level spec points inc in a day or two on US servers

can hardly wait, already gathering items to actually do an sc template this time, so far my friar's just been roaming in epic with a ds staff. and still kicking ass...

Byronis · Post by **Byronis** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:38 pm

the hardest decision for me is how to spec it

i suspect for my RvR/PvE group friendly friar I may be going for:

49 enh, 39 staff, 34 rejuv and 10 parry

and for my mostly solo/PLing PvE friar either

45 enh, 50 staff, 24 rejuv and 9 parry

or

45 enh, 50 staff, 15 rejuv and 21 parry

or possibly

47 enh, 50 staff, 9 rejuv and 20 parry (if i want best haste)

Post by **Fingoniel** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:13 pm

don't forget the hot is castable in combat while moving now...

makes it much more attractive.

Byronis · Post by **Byronis** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:26 pm

indeed:

I think Byronilus my mostly PvE friar will be

50 Staff (Holy Staff->Excommunicate chain)
47 Enhancement (Top 30 second self haste)
16 Parry
15 Rejuvenation (for the occasional group activity where i may need to rezz)

Byronis here and his Pve group friendly reincarnation on Gaheris will probably be either

Spec 1

45 Enhancement

red self 69 QUI/DEX
red self 58 AF
red self 15% Absorb
red group 25% endurance cost reduction
yellow self 32% 30 sec haste (every 3 mins)
yellow self 30 second offensive proc - chance to 100 hp PBAOE heal
yellow group 100hp defensive heal proc
yellow group 16% heat resistance
yellow group 16% cold resistance
yellow group 16% matter resistance

44 Rejuvenation

80hp over 30 second group HoT
yellow self 30 second offensive proc - chance to 60 hp group heal

34 Staff

all but last 3 styles

8 Parry

or

Spec 2

46 Enhancement

as above but with red heat resist for Dragon Raids

34 Rejuvenation

65hp over 30 seconds group HoT

39 Staff

all but last 2 styles

19 Parry

Byronis · Post by **Byronis** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:02 am

On Gaheris following the forced respec i've gone

50 staff
42 enhance (losing red qui/dex doesn't seem to have made any noticeable effect)
24 rejuvenation
18 parry

if it doesn't pan out i'll use the free mythic respec that came with this patch

Syri · Post by **Syri** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:30 pm

regen rates have benefited friars a lot... can stick end regen on permanent now, cause the power ticks back as quick as it goes down... so that's permanent near full end, near full power and tons of healing procs.
*waits for the mids and hibs to scream "nerf friars!"*